>> guest: public citizen's has an energy group that pushed this. there is a group called term, the utility reform network it's been around for 30 some years. the citizens utility board there is one of those i believe in illinois. here in washington the former general counsel has been trying to get the regular tour commission to stop being a complete tool of the company's a regulates and they have it every turn blocked in saying we don't have to listen to what you say or what facts you come up with a total disregard for the consumer and what happens is people come from the industry and they leave and they become executive said the country they disbanded your money to. >> host: >> guest: i see you go till the congressman this because i can't talk to him for a year. >> host: said that's what consumers can do. would you like to see state legislatures to on the issues clacks would be the important things. >> guest: the consumer advocate's office may be funded as much as its report to the corporation spent on lobbying you would get some balance because t